and he's now a regiment gunner.
When he first said it, he was 11 years old,
so I was like, no, no,
you're not going in, not a chance
because when you think of war
and all the things that they could be facing,
when it's an 11-year-old boy saying it to you,
that's the face you see going into battle.
You don't see the grown man that he would be
once he's grown up and eligible to join.
You just see the little tot that's in front of you
saying he wants to become a member of the forces.
But it wasn't until about five/six years later
that I could see his development
and his passion for it
'cause he really, really wanted it,
he studied for it, he trained so hard
and I just thought, I can see now
that this is the right place for you
and he's never looked back since then.
And it was actually myself
that sort of facilitated his,
the start of his journey into the RAF,
so I went from saying absolutely not
to go on, go for it.