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The Troubles

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So I was posted to Northern Ireland to 3

permanently based at

And their job was the security

the troubles were in full swing.

That was in 1983.

I went there

adjutant, so responsible for sort

But I did from time to time command troops

Well, of course it wasn't,

I looked out the aircraft window coming

and you know, because you watch the news,

war zone, you know, 24/ 7.

But because it isn't,

I mean it rains most of the time but it's,

country and lovely people as well.

But you have this, you know, this

of the communities which in the sort

So you'll be in Belfast,

I know the Ardoyne in north Belfast

and all the curbstones will be painted

in the colours of the Irish Tricolour.

There'll be Irish flags everywhere

you the C word as you go past and all that.

It's all very learned behaviour.

It's just almost always

you know, meant or anything.

And then you'll, you know,

peace walls between a community and you'd

which is loyalist and the curbstone

There'd be Union Jacks everywhere

hugging your like long lost friends.

And it was just such a.

Extraordinarily bizarre, you know,

because the people are actually both,

witty and warm and you know, if they,

if it wasn't for the Troubles,

on famously sort of thing.

But by 1993 the troubles

I suppose it was quite a sophisticated

contest in that the IRA ,

mainly the IRA ,

two other splinter groups,

sophisticated because

I mean there was surveillance everywhere,

You know, we were there, of course we

We weren't there in our own right.

So, you know,

an IUC officer to deliver a court summons,

to stop and get him killed.

It was a very extraordinary situation.

But he knew all the.

As we walked around, the IUC officer would

he's a bomb maker or whatever it might be.

So it's just a very strange.

Very strange form of insurgency,

That's.

That's what we knew.

When you go to later go to Iraq

it's a completely different situation.

It makes the situation in Northern Ireland

It was, yeah, it was very strange,

first haul because there was

But it was, I suppose,

Of some of the later things.

I mean, the sheer awfulness.

I mean, not to say

It was, I guess, a little bit more

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